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British Record Carp List



I've asked admin about a Carpy History section once the articles and other stuff from the old site is sorted but as it looks like this might take a little time I thought I'd post up here for now a list I did for another forum about a year ago listing the recognized British Record Carp. I've found a few more pictures but there are still some missing so if anyone can post the missing pics up I'm sure the admin can insert them accordingly.

I say “record” but in the days before the British Record Fish Committee existed the record carp was one that was "generally acknowledged" by the anglers of the day. Although other larger fish may have been caught and not reported or caught but not "acknowledged". Any new records can be then be added as they occur.





26th Sept 1902 - Common Carp 17lb 8oz from Croxby Pond by Otto Overbeck;

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6th Sept 1916 - Common Carp 20lb 3oz from Cheshunt Reservoir by John Andrews;

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14th August 1926 - Mirror Carp 21lb 10oz from Warren Pond by A.E. Wyatt;

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24th July 1930 - Mirror Carp 26lb from Mapperley Reservoir by Albert Buckley;

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3rd Oct 1951 - Mirror Carp 31lb 4oz from Redmire Pool by Bob Richards;

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13th Sept 1952 - Common Carp 44lb from Redmire Pool by Richard Walker;

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"Clarissa"







16th June 1980 Mirror Carp 51lb 8oz from Redmire Pool by Chris Yates;

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"The Bishop"





June 1995 Mirror Carp 53lb 15oz from Mid Northants by Roddy Porter
(a bit controversial this record as it was caught in the "old" close season which ceased in 1995 on stillwaters);


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June 1995 Mirror Carp 55lb 4oz from Mid Northants by Alex White. The same fish as Roddy Porter's , nicknamed "The Scaley One". Heavily spawn bound the fish died shortly after this capture;


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November 1996 Mirror Carp 55lb 13oz (Mary) from Wraysbury 1 by Terry Hearn;

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“Mary”




September 1998 Mirror Carp 56lb 6oz (Mary) from Wraysbury 1 by Kevin Cummins;

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2001 Mirror Carp 59lb 7oz (Two Tone) from Conningbrook by Terry Glebioska;

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2001 - 59lb 12oz (Two Tone) by Mark Toland;

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2001 - 61lb (Two Tone) by Gary Bayes;

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2002 - 61lb 7oz (Two Tone) by Lee Jackson;

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2004 - 64lb 5oz (Two Tone) by John Pack;

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October 2005 - 64lb 14oz (Two Tone)by Simon Bater;

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April 2008 - 67lb (Two Tone) by John Bird;

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2008 67lb 14oz (Two Tone) by Oz Holness;

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Thanks for this thread Chris, I've stickied this in here, the Catch Results Forum. Don't forget people you can also ask questions within this thread as appropriate.


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Fantastic Idea for a thread Chris thumbsup: thumbsup:


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brilliant thread and thanks for taking the time to write it up ,

in the pic where the fish is being held up by the hook , was that the done thing back then and would that fish not have some serious mouth damage or would it have been killed and stuffed

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brilliant thread and thanks for taking the time to write it up ,

in the pic where the fish is being held up by the hook , was that the done thing back then and would that fish not have some serious mouth damage or would it have been killed and stuffed


Am pretty sure that up until the time of the capture of Clarrisa, killing your capture for weighing elsewhere was the done thing. In the picture the fella is wearing a suit and tie, not exactly the ideal thing to wear when carping :lol:

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Kirkys right, it was common practise (if you could afford it) to have specimen fish set up at that time. It was also common practise to use a gaff to land carp which I assume was a crossover from it's use in pike angling as there wasn't a large enough landing net available unless you made your own like Dick Walker did. In doing so Dick probably helped to change angler's thinking when it came to landing carp. Sending Clarissa to London Zoo instead of having her stuffed may have started the trend of having a "trophy" photo instead of a trophy of the fish itself.

It was Dick Walker, by the way, who set up the fish for Bob Richards and if I remember correctly that was how he found out about Redmire.

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Terry Glebioska's 2001 capture of Two Tone has been added to the pix above.


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Its a great shame that the brook fish will probably hold the record until its dead! Because it WILL. There will never be a record carp like mary or like others before it. And its a shame that these fish will get hunted down for the rest of their lives, by "some" that just want their 5 mins of fame (fair enuff if its your buzz) To me its a crock of sheet!

Thats my view although maybe i didnt explained it into greater depth (i know i didnt) which possibly i should have, but this is how i feel about the "record"topic..


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Roddy Porter's picture of the "Scaley One" (caught in 1995) has been added to the list, courtesy of carping's very own history man himself, Chris Ball. Thanks Chris! clap:


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good post this in the vid they said the fish was 67lb 12oz?

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Has this fish been out since? Down in weight? :)

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it died soon after if i remember right

LJ will confirm it...I think he has a picture of it in his hands at double figures.


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When the brook fish snuffs it we might just have a common carp record, first one since clarissa


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Won't be long til one of these new wrong'uns breaks the record

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I don't know how no one's noticed my err, "deliberate" mistake :oops:

John Andrew's Cheshunt fish is obviously a common :lol: :lol:

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nice topic... some of those older ones are pretty stunning

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Am I the only one that finds it a bit boring that the last 8 records are the same fish?


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Esox_Hunter wrote:
Am I the only one that finds it a bit boring that the last 8 records are the same fish?


yeah it is getting a tad boring

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nice idea mate! good angling!
i might even share your skills on my local forum if thats ok :)


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Yea, I kinda like the idea of the Clarissa's and Mary's, the "whoa, where the hell did that lump come from?!" sorta thing, the last what, 10 years? It's been a case of "New British Record Carp!!" "oh, two-tone has put weight on...*yawn*"

Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic fish, but....meh...the same one all the time, there seems to be a major lack of excitement about it.

"nice idea mate! good angling!
i might even share your skills on my local forum if thats ok "

Is that some kinda sarcastic stab? Sorry for having an opinion.


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I don't know how no one's noticed my err, "deliberate" mistake :oops:

John Andrew's Cheshunt fish is obviously a common :lol: :lol:


Ssh... they'll never know Chris!!!


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"nice idea mate! good angling!
i might even share your skills on my local forum if thats ok "

Is that some kinda sarcastic stab? Sorry for having an opinion.


Nope I being serious, wanted to share the top info :|


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omg in 1902 the record 17lb 8oz


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certainly was mate, just goes to show how times have changed and how developments in fishing have changed the shape and size of fish as we know it.

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Yes. Sounds ridiculous nowadays I guess when the newbies see fish of that size as 'nusiance' fish while angling for a twenty, thirty or even forty.
Back then the fish of specimen size regardless of species would have been gaffed, killed and eaten, or set up if you were well off enough to afford it.
Just to put history into perspective a very big 5 or 6 bedroomed house in 1902 would have set you back around £442. Pounds that is.... not thousands of pounds.
A decent greenheart or bamboo rod three weeks wages comparably today.
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Isn't it odd that the record has never been broken while the previous record carp was still alive? ie. Clarissa was dead before The Bishop was caught, The Bishop was dead before Scaley One was caught, The Scaley one was dead before Mary was caught, Mary was dead before Two-Tone was caught...

Does this mean we will have to wait until Two-Tone is dead before we see another?...


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An interesting thought Craig and going by past form it would appear that way.
There again it's a bit like flipping a coin...it may land heads up 26 times in a row or there again it may not. :?
However the only way for it to happen without doubt would be to kill Two-Tone. 8O

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However the only way for it to happen without doubt would be to kill Two-Tone. 8O


It's certainly the longest lived record carp. By that I mean it has lived longer than any other since being caught at a record weight.


(I'm obviously discounting Clarissa here as that was moved and taken 'out of the game' so to speak.)


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Brilliant thread, nice idea - very interesting. :D

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So where do we stand with the british record carp now since the awesome Two Tone has passed?

I dont think we have a 60 in the country at the moment although Mr Nash believes there was a bigger fish swimming with the 59lb he caught...

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The Elphicks fish has been 60+

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Thanks Thomo, see it come at 62.10 in one of the gallery pics! hh)

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The Parrot in Wasing has gone over 60 as well

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